Tony did my other ear tonight. 6mm dermal punch. We had no corks so a potato was used instead. Punch went through well, too well, the plastic handle went through my ear. Because of that we couldn't use the heavy ring we were going to use. So there was a scramble to find plugs that would fit. Finally Roberta had to take her plug out and loan it to me and cram another one into hers. Before the punch we also stretched my existing ear with a taper and put a big ring in there to stretch it out some more. So now I have a big ring in one ear, and a plug in the other. -div ed.hunsinger.org